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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 27 April 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Carbon Capture, Utilisation and Storage

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Liam Kerr

My question is for Mike Tholen. Mark Ruskell asked about putting carbon under, say, the North Sea, but there was some disagreement between members of the earlier panel about what happens to it once it is there and, indeed, the integrity of anything that you put under the sea. It might come out, or it might not. Can you reassure the committee that, once carbon has been captured and sequestered properly, it is not going to come back out again or have certain negative consequences that we heard about earlier?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 December 2021

Liam Kerr

Good morning. If the regulations come into force, a business or, indeed, a person who manufactures or supplies certain plastics will commit a criminal offence, resulting in a fine of up to 拢5,000. The Law Society of Scotland suggests that a criminal law sanction might not be justified or proportionate and might not be the best way to ensure compliance. It suggests that civil sanctions, which have been used in similar legislation, might be better. Do you or your members take a view on the use of a criminal sanction in the regulations?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 December 2021

Liam Kerr

I thought that you might say that鈥攊t was certainly a risk that you might say that. You might give a similar response to my follow-up question. The investigation of potential offences and the enforcement of the criminal sanction will be done by local authorities. Is there any way of knowing whether local authorities feel sufficiently resourced and, indeed, able to carry out full investigation and enforcement?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 November 2021

Liam Kerr

With respect, I am not sure that that answers my question on the value and the numbers, but I will move on to a related question. What will be the impact on the Scottish supply chain in terms of both numbers and value?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 November 2021

Liam Kerr

I am very grateful for that answer. I also asked about the representations that you have had. I wonder whether the answer to that, along with the answer to my previous question, might be provided to the committee after the meeting, if that would not be any trouble.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Fuel Poverty Strategy

Meeting date: 30 November 2021

Liam Kerr

I mean the definitions that relate to things such as fuel poverty. It is difficult to make a direct comparison between data, because different definitions exist. Why might that be the case?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Fuel Poverty Strategy

Meeting date: 30 November 2021

Liam Kerr

I understand. I thank you for the comprehensive reply.

The cabinet secretary said in his opening remarks that a tension exists between achieving a reduction in fuel poverty and other policy objectives, such as a transition to net zero. How do you foresee that tension being resolved? Which objective will take priority if you cannot resolve that tension?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Fuel Poverty Strategy

Meeting date: 30 November 2021

Liam Kerr

I will go ever so slightly local as my friend Mark Ruskell did earlier, because the point has now come up. You have talked a lot about investment in heating systems to decarbonise properties. In the draft report, the strategy and in your answer, you talked about electric-powered heat pumps. Given the catastrophe of the past few days, what are you going to do to convince people that electricity and electric-powered heating is the way to go, particularly in more rural areas, as my friends were discussing earlier? What contingency planning will be done so that, if everyone were to move to electric-powered heating and if we had the sort of catastrophe that we have had over the past few days, those in rural areas will not be left freezing in their houses?

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Public Petitions

Meeting date: 30 November 2021

Liam Kerr

I have nothing to add to the important comments that have already been made.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 November 2021

Liam Kerr

I would be very grateful if you would do that.

My final question comes at the issue from a slightly different angle. Part 3 of the regulations, which I have in front of me, potentially fixes corporate liability on directors, managers and even 鈥渕embers鈥濃擨 presume that that means members of a club or something. Is that usual? What representations have you had from legal or business bodies on that provision?