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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 27 April 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

National Planning Framework (Energy)

Meeting date: 1 February 2022

Liam Kerr

I will direct two questions to Dr Kerr but, if anyone else wants to come in after he has answered, they should just indicate that.

Dr Kerr talked about heat networks and policy 11. That policy appears to prioritise heat networks—or what people might know as domestic heating—over other technologies. There is a presumption against domestic biomass where heat networks are available. Does that strike the right balance between heating technologies and site-specific solutions? Does it sufficiently recognise other solutions for heating that might be more financially viable or, indeed, practical?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Budget 2022-23

Meeting date: 1 February 2022

Liam Kerr

Good morning, cabinet secretary. I have several quick questions about data and measurement. How do you measure how far towards the 2030 climate goals the spending decisions in the 2022-23 budget will take Scotland?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Budget 2022-23

Meeting date: 1 February 2022

Liam Kerr

I want to pick up on something that the cabinet secretary said earlier when he was asked about the heat in buildings strategy and the figure of ÂŁ1.8 billion by 2026. The capital spending review states that the Government will invest ÂŁ1.6 billion to decarbonise heat in buildings. Why is there that difference? In any event, which portfolios will get the money? Can the committee have a detailed breakdown of the proposed spending profile to 2026?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Liam Kerr

I am not sure that that answers my question, minister, because there will obviously be a scheme cost to the public purse to set it up. Perhaps you can come back on that if you are aware of such costs and they have been sorted out.

Secondly, has the Government strategised any scheme to allow smaller businesses to attract and retain customers in a similar manner to the big supermarkets, which presumably can incentivise customers through their loyalty schemes?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Liam Kerr

The ambition is not being delivered, and the minister has not answered the questions that were posed by Maurice Golden in particular. I abstain.

For

Natalie Don (Renfrewshire North and West) (SNP)
Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP)
Fiona Hyslop (Linlithgow) (SNP)
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)

Against

Monica Lennon (Central Scotland) (Lab)

Abstentions

Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con)
Dean Lockhart (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Liam Kerr

I am grateful for that response. Does Jeremy Lawson wish to come in?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Liam Kerr

I understand. Thank you very much. Back to you, convener.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Liam Kerr

I shall be brief. Should SNIB be investing in listed managed funds? Tracy Black mentioned the city deals in her opening responses. As a partnership and funding model, will they deliver low carbon infrastructure?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Liam Kerr

I was not going to speak but, having listened to the minister’s evidence sessions today and previously, I feel compelled to do so.

My friend Monica Lennon spoke rather well just now, and she made some really important points.

The regulations have been half a decade in gestation, and we are now being told that they will be delayed again. The minister blames several extraneous factors. That is rather difficult to square with the reality. Our friends elsewhere are striding on with schemes that are constructed differently and which, evidence suggests, might be effective and future proofed. That relates to my earlier question.

The minister has rather struggled to answer several direct questions from across the political spectrum, and the answers that have been given have lacked detail. As Monica Lennon rightly said, we are all, across the parties, keen to see a workable, effective and successful scheme as soon as possible. The minister has talked positively about what a scheme can achieve and its benefits, but I am very concerned that its detail, depth and finances remain opaque.

This is a debate. I respectfully request that, in closing, the minister gives clear details of commitments and figures on the funds and the likely cost to the public purse, which I asked about, in order to allay my and possibly others’ significant concerns about what is proposed.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Liam Kerr

It does, up to a point.

I have one more question, minister. As you will be well aware, other jurisdictions are trialling a digital DRS system, which—certainly according to the research that I have done—would be cheaper, have a lower carbon footprint and be easier for people to get involved with. That begs a question: has the Scottish Government conducted, or will it conduct, a business case and feasibility study for a digital DRS? Will businesses that have set up your DRS be compensated—and if so, by whom—for what would presumably be an obsolete outlay if a digital DRS is ultimately introduced in Scotland?