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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 26 April 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Mark Ruskell

Jackson Cullinane and Stephen Smellie, I will bring you in on this. As I understand it, one of the big issues to do with the municipalisation of bus companies is the purchasing of rolling stock and bus stations and bringing all those assets into public ownership. Is there a read-across to other ways to procure green bonds when we are looking at the municipalisation of bus services? I can certainly see that being a real barrier for councils or other bodies that are set up to deliver municipalisation.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Mark Ruskell

As a follow-up to that鈥擨 will come to other witnesses afterwards鈥擨 have a question about the cliff edge in fares. I know quite a few people who have turned 22 and who suddenly have to pay the full fare. Have the young people in your group reflected on that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Mark Ruskell

That was a great example. My son used that bus service a lot last summer. However, that bus service was commissioned by the national park, so although a public agency commissioned it, it was run by a private company. Is there a role for councils and transport authorities to listen to users and to commission services, or should it be left to the market to decide? That service had not run for many years, and it took the national park stepping in to make it run again.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Mark Ruskell

What do you think the best structure is for running bus services? Is it community and municipal ownership or private ownership?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Mark Ruskell

Jackson Cullinane, do you want to add to that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Mark Ruskell

Kevin, you mentioned decommissioning of the HSTs and you talked earlier about the procurement of rolling stock. I am interested in hearing what you think should come out of the HST replacement process. What should we be procuring? I am also interested in hearing any thoughts that you and Gordon Martin have about how that process could be better.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Mark Ruskell

Thanks very much for joining us. What are the views of young people on the under-22s concessionary scheme? Islay, can we start with you?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Mark Ruskell

What about fare caps?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Mark Ruskell

Are there other approaches to running bus companies and services that we should look at? Some of the challenges with rural services have already been mentioned. I know that a number of community bus groups are running their own rural services and they have done very well: they have increased the number of bus users and are running more regular services that are keyed in to what rural communities want. I am also aware of the spreading of municipalisation and public sector control of bus services, particularly in English cities. There is potential for that to happen in Scotland as well.

I am interested in your thoughts on whether it makes a difference who owns, controls and runs services, and on whether the experimentation with flat fares in England has worked. Is that something that you would welcome here? What is good?

It is clear that some services are declining, particularly in rural areas, and that they have been doing so for a long time. What is working and what could help to restore our services? Robert Samson, do you want to start?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Mark Ruskell

Thank you.