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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 27 April 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Martin Whitfield

Some people who return to a committee in different parliamentary sessions find the same questions that have been considered previously are still hanging in front of the committee.

I am slightly conscious of time but I want to finish by getting a snapshot of one word. We have talked around the concept but the word “trust”—where it should lie and which way it should go—has not actually been spoken out loud today. I will gently look around the panel to give the witnesses a couple of seconds to consider that.

I will come to Meg Russell first. Trust: how does it lie, where does it lie, and how should committees respond to, and stand up to, that requirement?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Martin Whitfield

Do you want to add to that, Marc?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Groups (Compliance)

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Martin Whitfield

Our second agenda item is consideration of an annual update on cross-party groups’ compliance with the requirements of section 6 of the code of conduct. Members have a note from the clerks that sets out the extent to which each group has operated in compliance with the code. I invite comments from members on the annual report and the state of some of our CPGs.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Information Commissioner

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Martin Whitfield

Thank you for that.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Information Commissioner

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Martin Whitfield

Yes.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Information Commissioner

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Martin Whitfield

Thank you for that. If anything comes to mind after this session, please feel free to write or to contact the clerks about it.

I highlight the penultimate paragraph in your opening statement, which I found really interesting. This is the 20th anniversary of the 2002 act coming into force. Maybe it should not have passed its 10th anniversary. As we have touched on in relation to a number of matters, there is a need for proactive publication of information. We live in a digital age, we have AI—whatever that means, and it means different things to different people—and the landscape is changing very rapidly. There seems to be a need for us to consider that as soon as the Parliament is able to.

I thank Euan McCulloch, Claire Stephen and especially David Hamilton for their attendance today and look forward to engaging in the future.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Groups (Compliance)

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Martin Whitfield

I do not disagree with any of the comments that committee members have made. I note that, on 10 January this year, we had 119 cross-party groups. CPGs form an important part of how people outside the Parliament can engage with their łÉČËżěĘÖ. Indeed, the groups often allow people to engage with the Government and to give their lived experience, expertise and views when decisions are made. However, the annual report is a really challenging and disappointing read, given the failures.

Does the committee agree to deal with the question of whether we continue to accord accreditation to those CPGs at a later date?

Members indicated agreement.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Information Commissioner

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Martin Whitfield

I am certainly not going to comment on your choice of ChatGPT as an artificial intelligence platform. It is interesting that, as we contemplate having an environment of positive publication with regard to freedom of information, such AI tools will be able to provide a different nuance to information that currently is quite remote and to get beyond the point of people saying, “I have this—what’s next?”. Your comments on the specific barriers that young people face and the engagement that you are doing to break those down are massively important.

That takes me back to your undertaking to review the strategic plan after 12 months. You have discussed your approach of moving from promoting the idea of freedom of information to highlighting access to it. Is that the extent to which you are reviewing the strategic plan? Now that you have been working under it as it was presented to you, are you confident that it is fit for purpose? Does it reflect where the commission wants to see itself in 12 months’ time?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Information Commissioner

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Martin Whitfield

That is no problem and thank you for that information. We will move to questions, and I will kick off with the fact that this is, of course, the 20th anniversary. In some ways, 1 January 2005 seems like a long time ago and, in other ways, it seems like only yesterday.

I was fascinated by your comments at the end of your opening remarks about the involvement of young people and working with the Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland. We have had 20 years of a landscape where we have seen improvements—sometimes substantial, more frequently just gradual—in the legislative framework, which we will get to in a minute. Beyond engaging with the Children and Young People’s Commissioner, what thoughts have you had about engaging with young people and how to capture the importance to them of freedom of information? My experience is that they frequently ask questions to which they could get the answers on their own if they were more aware and the regime was more friendly towards young people.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Information Commissioner

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Martin Whitfield

Following on from that, there is the perennial question of “How well is it going?” What are the early indications of success for the strategic plan and the proposals that it contains?