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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 26 April 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Martin Whitfield

Marc Geddes, do you want to comment on that?

10:15  

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Martin Whitfield

Does the concept of flipping the selection鈥攄oing conveners first then drawing on the committee鈥攁nswer the challenge that you put, Brian?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Martin Whitfield

I want to move on to the next topic, which is expectations of committees and whose expectations of committees we should pay attention to. What is the academic understanding of and knowledge about the effectiveness of committees and the members on them, or is that an iterative area of study? We have made reference to very substantial reports that have looked at many different committees. How well do we understand the questions that we are asking?

09:30  

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Martin Whitfield

Your two insights and all the insights from the witnesses today have been very valuable and incredibly interesting.

I thank you all for your time this morning. If there are any other thoughts, particularly from Meg Russell, whom I dropped in at the deep end with that last question, or if there is anything that you would like to add, 鈥渏ust phone the clerk鈥濃攖o use Brian Taylor鈥檚 phrase鈥攁s a way in. Thank you very much.

10:42 Meeting continued in private until 11:14.  

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Martin Whitfield

Do you want to comment, Meg?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Martin Whitfield

Sir David, do you want to come in?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Martin Whitfield

I think that Meg Russell would like to come in.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Martin Whitfield

Our second agenda item is an evidence session as part of our committee effectiveness inquiry, which is seeking to answer the question of whether changes to the Parliament鈥檚 procedures and practices would help committees to work more effectively. In recent weeks, we have launched a public call for views on the inquiry. We have invited consultation responses from committees, the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body, political parties and individual 成人快手. We have also written to a range of legislatures, asking for information on how their committees operate and evaluate their work.

Today鈥檚 session is the first in a series of four oral evidence sessions as part of our inquiry. We are joined by our committee inquiry adviser, Dr Danielle Beswick, who is sitting to my right. Today, we will explore and try to answer the overarching questions of how committees are viewed externally and how we can evaluate their impact.

I am grateful to welcome Gemma Diamond, who is director of innovation and transformation at Audit Scotland; Dr Marc Geddes, who is a senior lecturer in politics at the University of Edinburgh; Sir David Natzler KCB, who was clerk to the House of Commons between 2015 and 2019, clerk of committees between 2008 and 2009 and clerk to the Reform of the House of Commons Committee, which is known as the Wright committee, between 2009 and 2010; Brian Taylor, who is a former BBC Scotland political editor, a columnist for The Herald and a long-time observer of this Parliament; and Professor Meg Russell, who is director of the constitution unit at University College London.

As this is a round-table evidence session, although we will take the usual approach of members asking witnesses questions, we will seek the opportunity for witnesses to have a discussion between themselves and to have an evidence session that is perhaps more open and free flowing than the ones that sometimes take place in committees. There is no expectation that witnesses should answer every question. When the witnesses who are appearing remotely wish to respond to a question or make a comment, they should type R in the chat function or just jump in.

We will move to the first of our facilitating questions, which is about the characteristics of a successful committee. I will hand over to Sue Webber.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Martin Whitfield

That is why I left it until the end.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Martin Whitfield

Let me press you on one area. What is the role of the spectacle of politics that we sometimes see in committees? We certainly see it in the chamber. In committees, what are the advantages and disadvantages of that? What is its role and importance?