łÉČËżěĘÖ

Skip to main content

Language: English /

Loading…

Chamber and committees

Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

Filter your results Hide all filters

Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 29 April 2025
Select which types of business to include


Select level of detail in results

Displaying 1386 contributions

|

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Siobhian Brown

As I said, we know that the proposal for a specific offence of dog theft has been questioned by the Law Society of Scotland and other representatives. The common law offence of theft already covers pet theft, so it has been argued that there are existing laws in place; I mentioned that in response to an earlier question.

I do not know whether Jim Wilson wants to add anything.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Siobhian Brown

I agree. I am a dog owner, and if someone took my dog I would go straight to the police—that is instinctively what I would do. I appreciate your points that highlight the issue.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Siobhian Brown

As Mr Wilson said in response to one of the earlier questions, we have not seen any strong evidence that the bill will be a deterrent, but we must look at the bigger picture. As you will appreciate, my portfolio covers dangerous dogs and Mr Fairlie’s covers animal welfare, so there is a bit of a split there, but we have been working together and looking at responsible dog ownership and raising awareness through stakeholders. If the bill proceeds, it could raise more awareness. At this stage, though, there is no strong evidence that it will be a deterrent.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Siobhian Brown

Yes, and that has been raised with the cabinet secretary in relation to the Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill. I believe that the Criminal Justice Committee completed stage 2 of that bill just before the Easter recess. Jamie Greene lodged amendments in that regard, and the cabinet secretary has agreed to work with him on the matter. I think that it was said that the process will be quite slow and staggered, but that is a matter for the cabinet secretary, because she is working on the matter of victim impact statements with Jamie Greene.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Siobhian Brown

As I said, it is a very emotive issue for anyone who has a pet, whether it is a dog or any other pet. Having been in my role and had this portfolio for two years, and having extensively gone through dog legislation and the XL bully situation, I am acutely aware of how emotive dog theft and having to go through things that have happened in the past couple of years has been for families with dogs. So, yes, we consider and take cognisance of the impact.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Siobhian Brown

Yes. Everything is under consideration. We will not say no.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Siobhian Brown

The Scottish Government notes that the bill would make the theft of an assistance dog an aggravated offence. As a result, the court would be required to consider whether the sentence given should be enhanced to reflect the significance of taking an assistance dog. That is one of the issues that the committee will be required to carefully consider as the bill is scrutinised. I note from Mr Golden’s letter to the committee of 18 April that he had engaged with stakeholders such as Guide Dogs Forfar, the Scottish Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals and Dogs Trust to inform the proposal.

I would like to know more from Maurice Golden about the evidence base to support and justify the position that the emotional impact on victims is not sufficiently considered during sentencing under current law. In the committee’s evidence-taking session on 26 March, the representatives from Police Scotland and the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service highlighted that the police

“would have to be able to demonstrate that the accused knew that the dog was an assistance dog to be able to prove the aggravation.”

At the same evidence session, Stuart Munro from the Law Society of Scotland was also clear that

“the sentencing process is already structured in a way that should allow”

information about the impact of the theft of an assistance dog

“to be properly taken into account.”—[Official Report, Rural Affairs and Islands Committee, 26 March 2025; c 20-21.]

If somebody actively seeks to steal an assistance dog, our existing law already reflects that as being worthy of a more serious penalty. We are interested in hearing Mr Golden’s views on that when you take evidence from him.

I will bring in Mr Wilson.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Siobhian Brown

Yes—my personal opinion at this stage is that it is a bit over the top, unless there is a justification from Mr Golden that would change my view.

Mr Wilson, do you have any further views on that?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Siobhian Brown

We would be keen to hear from Mr Golden about his reasoning in that regard and how he would envisage those provisions moving forward. As I said at the beginning of the session, we are taking a neutral stance on the bill and we will be keen to see the committee’s stage 1 report. Nevertheless, as the Scottish Government, we have to ensure, as the process moves forward and that the bill is legislatively competent, so that it can be enacted, and I will be looking at that.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Siobhian Brown

Absolutely.